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Ep 129 – Goji Mobile: The Expedia of mobile phones (Thad Hwang)

This week’s guest

Thad Hwang

CEO and Founder Goji Mobile

Most consumers can’t tell the difference between Wi-Fi and cellular networks, yet our industry expects them to navigate over 200 confusing plan options. This complexity leaves no easy way for customers to compare networks, compare coverage at specific locations, or recognize if they’re on the right plan for their usage patterns.

For this episode, I’m talking with Thad Hwang, CEO and founder of Goji Mobile, a consumer super app that’s bringing transparency to mobile. Goji is like Expedia for mobile—one platform where consumers can compare plans, evaluate coverage, and purchase refurbished devices.

Listen now to hear:

  • How hyper-local coverage maps help consumers choose the right carrier [05:31]
  • Why they stay with carriers even when they aren’t meeting their needs [06:52]
  • Why so many customers overpay for data [07:35]
  • How simple plan adjustments can save people hundreds of dollars per year [11:07]

Links and resources

  • Check out the Goji Mobile website to compare carriers and plans, check coverage maps, and shop for phones.
  • Download the Goji Mobile app to get real-time measurement of your network performance. 
  • Looking to upgrade your phone? Go to the Goji Store to buy quality refurbished phones at great prices. It’s currently offering a special 10% discount for our listeners! Use the code: TELCOIN20 
  • Read the Goji blog, and follow Goji on Facebook and Instagram.
  • Thad compared choosing from 200+ mobile plans to ordering from the Cheesecake Factory menu—and he’s not wrong. That thing is absolutely insane and takes at least 15 minutes to read! Take a look at the menu to see why. 
  • Want to see the pickleball maneuvers Thad and I geeked out about? Take a look at these videos to see how to hit an Erne and ATP
  • Check out this episode on our YouTube channel.
  • You can find the episode transcript here.

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Guest bio

Thad Hwang is the Founder and CEO of Goji Mobile, where he’s building a next-generation mobile marketplace that connects consumers with the best deals on phones and plans. He has deep dual-sided marketplace experience from his time at eBay and Lyft, as well as enterprise B2B expertise in sectors like automotive, data/tooling, and government, and executive leadership experience as Chief Product Officer at Replica and The Black Tux. Thad has a track record of scaling consumer products from zero to millions of users, building and leading cross-functional teams, and driving innovation across mobile, e-commerce, and SaaS. 


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Frequently Asked Questions

1. What is Goji Mobile and how does it help consumers?

Goji Mobile is a consumer app often described as “the Expedia for cellphones and plans.” It simplifies the complicated process of shopping for mobile phones and plans by allowing users to compare all US carriers and plans side-by-side in one place. The app features hyper-local coverage maps where users can plug in any address to see how different carriers perform at specific locations. An AI chatbot called ChatBarry recommends personalized plan options, and a store offers quality refurbished phones at up to 40% less than new devices.

2. How much data do most people actually use on cellular networks?

According to Goji Mobile’s research, 70% to 90% of mobile data usage happens over Wi-Fi, not cellular networks. This means most consumers on unlimited plans are paying for data they barely use. Many people overpay significantly for their cellphone service because they don’t realize how much of their usage occurs on Wi-Fi at home, work, or other locations. This insight helps consumers make more informed decisions about whether they truly need an unlimited plan or could save money with a capped data option.

3. How does Goji’s coverage map differ from carrier websites?

Unlike coverage maps on carrier websites that only show information about that specific carrier, Goji’s coverage map is agnostic and shows how all carriers rank against each other at any given address. Users can zoom to street level and plug in multiple addresses—like home, work, or their children’s school—to see detailed coverage comparisons. This helps consumers overcome the fear of switching carriers by showing them exactly what coverage they’ll get before making a change, rather than discovering dead zones after it’s too late.

4. Why does Danielle Rios believe telcos won’t build something like Goji themselves?

In her Telco in 20 takeaway, Danielle Rios explains that operators won’t build consumer-focused apps like Goji because their DNA is network engineering, not consumer product design. Telco innovation typically comes from infrastructure experts who optimize networks rather than subscriber experiences. They speak in technical language like SIM cards and data throttling because that’s the language of building systems, not selling to humans. DR emphasizes that at Totogi, they’re bringing fresh AI-native thinking to solve problems the industry has been approaching in the same way for decades.

5. What are common ways consumers can save money on their mobile plans?

Goji helps users identify several money-saving opportunities. First, downgrading from unlimited to capped data plans—like Verizon’s 15GB plan—can save around $20 per month. Second, moving children from premium unlimited plans to prepaid plans can reduce costs from $65 to $30 monthly. Third, downgrading light users to smaller plans, like a 5GB plan for someone who’s home most of the time. Finally, checking bills for unused device lines like forgotten iPad subscriptions. Many users report saving over $500 per year, with DR herself saving about $900 annually by optimizing her family’s plan.

6. What is ChatBarry and how does it help with plan selection?

ChatBarry is Goji’s AI-powered chatbot designed to help consumers navigate the overwhelming, 200+ mobile plan options available in the US. Users can simply tell Barry what they’re looking for—whether it’s better coverage, a less expensive family plan, or any other specific need—and the AI will analyze their requirements and recommend options that fit their needs while saving real money. This eliminates the need to jump between multiple carrier websites and decode confusing industry jargon to find the right plan.